Erwyn van der Meer

I have an Acer 8204 laptop (2.0 ghz CoreDuo, 2gigs of ram) and I have been having all sorts of issue with sleep. Whenever my machine sleeps, it doesn't wake up. Strangely it wakes up enough to generate heat and drain the battery but not enough for me to use it.

I have to do a hard reset each time. So my machine has started to get squirrelly making things progressively worse.

I've tried updating to the latest bios (which is over 6 months old, nice job Acer)

This problem has been bugging me a lot lately.

-Geoff

The global launch of Windows Vista yesterday brought a large number of updates with it. Yesterday I installed

I bought an Hp with Vista pre-installed.  This thing although nice looking is an absolute nightmare.  I've had the following problems so far in the less than 24hrs I've owned this computer....

1. Vista will not allow me to create a backup disk.  When you create backup disk it burns the first 2 disks fine, then on the third disk it freezes.  It did this twice and the second time it did it, my entire task bar from the start menu to the time was completely frozen.  The odd thing about this is everything else on the computer ran except that whole bottom task bar.  When I went into Alt, Cntrl, Dlt it said that backup was not responding.  When I tried to end the process it would tell me it was unable to end the process.

2.  The computer shut down while it was in sleep mode and restarted itself saying the computer was shut down unexpectedly.

3.  it says I need an update to the motherboard bios.  When I try to do the update it will try to load it and then it kicks to a screen that says install failed.  I've tried this 3 times now and have been unsuccesful!

Honestly I'm quite surprised that Microsoft would have the audacity to put out such a bug ridden program that is doing nothing but stressing out the very people that pay gates salary.  That's right gates without your consumers you would have zero money.  So how about actually testing your products to make sure they work before you decide to sell it!  That's what they call quality assurance!  Something you might want to add to your vernacular!

I find your anger understandable however somewhat misdirected.  While I am in no way excusing MS from any responsibility to work with the manufacturers to get this issue fixed, really if you have purchased a new machine isn't it really the manufacturers fault for not properly testing their hardware before shipping?

I've had Vista sleep problems on 2 different machines.  

The first one, I had a 2 nVidia card setup to drive 3 monitors.  Upon sleep, the system will not wake up completely.  It seems to be a problem with the nVidia driver not able to come out of sleep.  

On the 2nd machine, I have a 1.2 TB (4x300GB SATA HDD) RAID array setup on the secondary SATA controller (Marvell) on an Intel 975XBX2 motherboard.  Again, when the system wakes from sleep, it would cause a BSOD.  It's very consistent and repeatable.  

This is pretty disappoint...  Of all of the HW vendors, I would think nVidia and Intel would test their hardware more throughly...

My Vista has the opposite problem. It's insomniac. Every time I put it to sleep, it wakes up on its own in 2-10 minutes.

My vista desktop has the same insomniac problems, it will not stay asleep for more than 30sec up  to 2 min max. Anyone know how to fix it? I have been searching for a solution for a few days now

I had the problem of Vista waking up not long after being put to sleep. I found that my mouse and keyboard were by default set to wake up the computer on input. Thus is the mouse moves at all, say due to a vibration on the desk, the the pc would wake up.

To resolve this i turned off "Allow this device to wake up computer"  checkbox on the hardware tab of the mouse and keyboard properties (control panel).

I also have the "insomniac" problem except when I disconnect the DSL input.

Ignore Pete's previus. DSL problem was not reproduced after following David's suggestion.  

Again follow this path: Control panel: Mouse (or Keyboard) icon: Hardware tab: Properties button: General tab: Change settings button: and then the Power Management tab.

My problem with vista is an Idle Crash.  If i leave the computer on or in sleep when i go to work or bed I come home to find it frozen with 1 1/2 inch wide multicolored vertical lines.  So i have to do a hard boot.  Once I do that it wont start correctly and it has to restore windows to previous settings and all games and programs are gone.  Anyone have any ideas hardware problem or Vista problem.  I have a brand new Dell E521 AMD 3600+ Dual core 1mb ATI radeon 1900

While trying to arrive at a standard Intel-based platform for my clients who want Vista, I ran into wake-up problems. The test systems would usually wake up the first time fine, but subsequent "shutdowns" and wake-ups would result in a lockup. I believe I ultimately solved the problem by not installing the NIC and INF drivers.

Derek,

I have the same exact setup as you. I have a DEll E521 with Ati 1900. I got the same exact thing until I upgraded the video card driver. Try that and see if it helps. I still have problems with the computer not sleeping though. stays asleep for 30 sec thats it. Microsoft needs to fix this problem

i fixed the problem on my system by setting tke BIOS sleep modes to S1 & S3.

I have a HP with Vista preinstalled and it would start up on it's own while in the sleep mode. This solved my problem:

Go to Control Panel

    Device Manager

       Network Adaptors

            click on the first listed (NVIDIA....)

Go to the Power Management tab and uncheck - "Allow device to wake computer"

There is even a paragraph on that tab warning that allowing the device to

wake your computer may cause it to "wakeup" when you don't want it

to!

This is crazy, my computer has been keeping crashing forever now, it crashes everyday, because i m at school, so everytime i had to shut off the comp.

I seem to have a unique problem: my Vista machine won't go to sleep on schedule, even though it's set to sleep after one hour in the power management applet. I've changed it to 30 minutes but still nothing. I can manually put it into sleep mode, and it will reliably wake up when I press any key. Why am I the only person to experience this particular problem??

When i put Vista in Sleep it will sometimes crash. Other times it will go into an endless loop as it displays 'welcome' on the screen while trying to get back into windows proper.

Another time it just started with the blue/green background picture and never got any further.

Basically,the sleep option is so bug infested i could never possibly use it.....until they fix it that is,if they ever do.

Is anyone else out there having a problem after downloading a new programme that when you try to run it, it doesnt work? I keep uninstalling then reinstalling only to find that there are components missing... I have this same programme installed on my other computers which are still operating XP with no problems at all. Is this Vista causing the programmes not to work? I for one dont like anything about Vista at all.

Hi Cindy,

I have that problem too!

Tried to install nero (vista approved), won't install won't unload?

Chris

Check you have Nero version 7.5 or higher I had the same problem with Nero 7.1 ;)

ok, my problem is as followes

everytime im doing something, ex. in a website, my computer will go to sleep out of nowhere. then i turn it back on and 1 minute later it goes to sleep again. this problem has really got me mad. do you guys know any solutions to this. i have got through almost everything and turned off sleep.

I have a HP paltop (HP pavillon dv9000) with 17" screen, 2 GB RAM, 200 GB HD and Windows Vista Ultimate.

Whenever sleep mode (or lately hibernation mode) are activated, the machine stays on (fan, Harddisk) but the screen shuts donw and can only be waken by rebooting the machine.

After looking at all the comments this probe is not specific to any particular hardware, it is a OS probem.

Any known fixes ?

Joerg

Joerg, I have same issue with my Acer 5002 laptop with Windows Vista Ultimate.  Both sleep and hibernation mode, they sometimes work fine, but other times (probably a good 50% of the time) everything stays running full tilt, even wit lid closed, but screen blacks out and nothing except a hard reboot works.  I suspect something somewhere causes my Vista to lock up hard just before it goes to sleep.

I updated to a recently released BIOS, and the problem went away, sort of.  it was good for about 1 day, and then got worse and worse, and now its again at 50%+ failure to go to sleep or hibernate.

And after reading all these comments about all different power problems across VAST types of hardware, i suspect Vista simply isn't ready for the masses yet.  It feels like MS threw a beta OS on our heads.  I think the OS is just way too complex and bloated and Now i'm going to switch back to XP in the short term, and start evaluating Linux options as well, assuming Linux finally got off their horses and started making drivers that work

good luck everyone that will choose to ride out this BETA OS.  I personally have given up on it.

John

Just for everyone's information ... these same identical problems with the sleep key (mode) are also in Windows XP Professional.  Activating the sleep key on the keyboard will crash and reboot the system.  Obviously a system problem that has been with Microsoft for some time ... and ... they have still not fixed.

Erwyn...I have a 3 week old HP Pavilion a1740n.  The sleep issue that I have is that the computer will go into sleep mode but will wake after 45-55 seconds.  It will not go into sleep on its' own though with any of the power management setting selections...you have to manually select sleep through the Start menu or the sleep button on the keyboard.  I have spent approx 6 hours on HP Tech Chat and tried ALL of their suggestions...EXCEPT their last one!!!  They wanted me to reinstate the hard drive to new...it is only 3 weeks old and NEVER HAS SLEPT!!!           Bottom line...I tried your suggestion hoping it might work for me as well, but it unfortunately did not.  Thanks for posting your suggestion though.

HELP, I have a dell computer with Vista, and I dont know what to classify this problem as but I will be typing, and my screen will go black and it was only using my computer in the dark did I realize my power button was slowly flashing, indicating it was in some kind of mode, but my laptop goes black sometimes every hour sometimes every 5 seconds, then I hit my power button and it comes up right where I left off at. Some times it does not come back on and I have to close it and turn it off.  Does anyone know a solution to this problem Dell has tried everything with Control Panel but 15 minutes after they did there stuff it kept doing it

same sleep problem with my Dell Duoal Core machine with Vista.

Can somebody let know the solution

My computer goes to sleep, but upon waking it up, the system flashes a blue screen of death and reboots.  Anyone else have this problem?  It does the same thing on hibernate.

My HP Pavilion dv6000 doesn't want to accept a regular user password after waking up from long sleep. The administrator user password it does accept. Strange.

I have a new HP Pavilion dv9000 laptop, and it doesn't wake up after turning off the tv player (multimedia center). If I use the remote to turn off the tv, the computer hibernates and can't be woken up. I have to remove the battery and hard boot. If it goes to sleep on its own, same problem with waking up. Any ideas?

I guess Microsoft like always, wants us to keep updatting till a ver

with out all the bugs is created and so Microsoft uses us as the testers

insted of paying staff to fix it for us befor selling it.hence why he is so Rich. Maybe we should all think of APPLE they seem to know what there doing maybe they have real smart people working for them, not Microsoft they don`t like to think ahead.*S*

I recently purchased a Dell E521 desktop. When the sleep button is cclicked it goes to sleep for 10-15 seconds than comes back on.

I just bought a Dell E521 running Vista Ultimate, AMD X2 3800, 500 gig drive, 4 gig ram, DVD-ROM and DVD burner. If I walk away from the PC and don't touch it with nothing running, it will eventually hibernate. However, once I go back to it, the monitor light is amber and the PC is running since you can hear it. The Keyboard is lit up. However if you try to wake it out of hibernate from mouse or keyboard, nothing. Nothing on the screen and the PC still stays in the run mode. There is nothing to do then except to hold the power button down for its 7 seconds and let it reboot. Unfortunately, if you do this, Vista starts its safe mode option. When doing this, since the keyboard and mouse are USB, you have no choice but to take what Vista gives you. It starts the repair option and then after a while you have mouse control to cancel the repair and it boots back to normal. However if the PC is doing something, like import video from my camera or burning a DVD, it does not hibernate and there is never an issue. I can let it run all night and no problem. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Ah hah. Here is a MS suggestion from their site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929734

Acer 8204 sleep issues disappeared after the lastest ATI update. Sleep function works fine now.

Thanks to Erwyn for having this blog and to all the contributors. I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an AMD processor. I purchased the machine in December with Windows XP and Vista upgrade. Sleep was problem free on XP, and then when I "upgraded" to Vista, I came up with the insomnia problem. I am going to try turning off wake-up on various devices one at a time before going the BIOS route.

HP Pavilion d4890y Vista Ultimate Sleep mode will start but fails to complete cycle. Will turn off display but does not proceed to power save mode. PC then hangs, have to power reset and reboot. Failure rate is erratic, in a sequence of initiating sleep mode, it failed 8 times. HP tech support has no solution. Reported bug to MS Vista development team, requested hotfix. No reply or acknowledgement from MS.

I have a new Dell Dimension 9200 and am experiencing the same problems and frustrations. Dell recommended resetting the default sleep options, and that does work - if you reset them immediately before sleeping. (No thanks to Dell "we recommend Vista Home Premium" - they didn't tell me that most of my old software and accessories would not be fully Vista compatible, to the extent that I am thinking of buying an XP machine.) I had thought that may be it was some of the software that I had loaded causing a problem - finding this blog (thanks!) has made me realise that it is an MS problem. Whilst it is good to know that I am not alone, I am wondering how frequent a problem it is. With so many systems out there, presumably the people on this blog are in a minority? So what makes one system sleep and another not, I wonder. The really bitter pill about failing to sleep is that it makes a mockery of my schedule of TV recordings.

Hi all, I purchased a Dell Dimension E521 a few weeks ago en had the samen insomnia problem. I have found out that this is caused by the network driver. Since updating the network driver to the latest one from the Dell website (Broadcom adapter) I am able to let the computer go to sleep. So the problem seemed to be solved. Now I have another problem. When the computers returns from sleep the network is not functioning properly so I have no internet connection anymore. Unplugging the cable en replugging it in helpts but I can not explain this to my family and I don't really like the workaround. Does anybody have any clou?

If you use a cable modem that is connected all the time you must also uncheck the box in the hardware properties so that it does not wake up you computer everytime it sends or receives data.

I have an issue with Vista, I click the sleep button and upon sleeping it instantly powers itself back on and sits at the CTRL>ALT>DEL screen. I tried the step outlined above, i.e. stopping Keyboard and mouse from waking up and also setting power options to high performance, but this didn't work Any ideas? Thanks Paulo

Like so many of those who have described their problems with a Vista based computer waking from sleep almost immediately being tucked in for the night, one of the suggestions above worked for me and I thought I would share this with the others. On June 19 Rick suggested that, "If you use a cable modem that is connected all the time you must also uncheck the box in the hardware properties so that it does not wake up your computer every time it sends or receives data."  I had been frustrated to distraction over this sleep business and I was delighted to find a solution that worked. Thanks Rick and thanks to all who have posted their ideas to this forum.

Concerning WinVista Sleep then wakeup

within 2 min; HP chat says the problem

lies in the video driver.  Solution: uninstall

/reinstall the video driver.  This causes

a major problem, you have to re-set your

video settings after you are done and

your desktop is jumbled.  But here is the

clincher:  It DOES NOT WORK to help your

sleep/wakeup problem.  It is a gigantic

waste of time.  Consequently, when

I put my computer to sleep, it still wakes

up after two minutes.

I have almost the same configuration as the initial computer.  Except i have a dell demition 8400 instead of the 8300.  When my computer goes to sleep it stays asleep.. It takes 2 reboots to get my Vista back to the desktop.  Yet, on the otherhand, when im in XP, i have no problems at all with sleeping.

This post, from the list of comments above, solved my Vista 2 min sleep/wakeup problem!

BUT on my system, instead of the NVIDIA file there was only a LAN Connection file (a new home network was recently installed, which explains why I began to have this issue only recently). So I followed these directions for that file instead and now my problem is solved. Read below!

#  re: Windows Vista Sleep Problems

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:05 PM by Dr. Phil

I have a HP with Vista preinstalled and it would start up on it's own while in the sleep mode. This solved my problem:

Go to Control Panel

   Device Manager

      Network Adaptors

           click on the first listed (NVIDIA....)

Go to the Power Management tab and uncheck - "Allow device to wake computer"

There is even a paragraph on that tab warning that allowing the device to

wake your computer may cause it to "wakeup" when you don't want it

to!

SOLVED the Sleep Explorer Crash on wake-up for my Vaio.

Run msconfig.exe from the start bar...

Check the start-up programs...

If you find some nVidia crap being loaded, check them off.

Re-start.

Done! No more crashes on wake-up.

(at least, worked for me)

I have a Dell Inspiron 1520 that came with Home Premium.  I upgraded it to Vista Ultimate & now the laptop won't wake from sleep. I have to hold in the power button & shut it down to get it to wake up again. I chatted online with Dell support and they sent me the most recent driver *that they have* for my display adapter - Nvidia Geforce 8600M GT. Unfortunately, it's the same driver I already have. The problem continues...

MMM... When my Dell Inspiron 1501

wakes up, a lot of weird vertical lines

appear on screen.... that doesn't happpens

when i turn it on.. can anybody helpme?

please

I have the same problem: my Vista machine won't go to sleep on schedule, even though it's set to sleep after one hour in the power management applet. I've changed it to 30 minutes but still nothing. I can manually put it into sleep mode, and it will reliably wake up when I press any key. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jack

PCs upgraded to Vista Ultimate have the sleep / wake up problem.

When I bought the new Dell Inspiron E1505, included Vista Home Basic, the laptop was working very well, no still sleep and awake as normal. However, after upgrading to Ultimate version, my laptop can't awake after go to sleep or hibernate. It can't event has the screensaver.

I cured this with my Dell E521 with vista ultimate by changing the setting in the bios from suspend mode S3 to S1. Seems to sleep ok now.

I have an HP dv200 (dv2386ea) and recently it has started having the sleep problem.  It only appeared after a while, I suspect nVidia update or other install, but can't figure out which one..

I will just forget about the 'sleep' under vista.  Crap.

When i first ran Vista, sleep mode worked perfectly... until i downloaded update from windows to fix sleep crashes.. then i started having problems with sleep and trouble waking up.. I have to hard boot for the computer to recover. very annoying..

I have a brand new Dell. It crashes when I open the cover from the sleep mode. Dell tried a workaround, by finding a new setting in Vista called "hybrid sleep mode". They disabled that, and thought they had it fixed. (Hybrid sleep is supposedly deeper than  sleep, but not as deep as hibernate). WRONG! Sending the computer back and going back to XP. I don't have hours to spend on a Microsoft problem.

FOR RICHARD:

Did you ever get an answer on why your PC will not go into hibernate at you set time?

Thanks,

Jim

I tried all of the above options but to no avail.

eventually, I realised that the in my BIOS, where I had set suspend to S3, there is a secondary option once this is enabled classed 'Enable resume from USB'. Presumably this is to enable resume from USB mouse / keyboard, but was also being triggered by my other USB devices, internal and perhaps even external such as my external drives whose power is controlled manually and not from the bios.

I switched this option off and now Sleep works fine, though i can only resume from the powerOn button (also fine for me)

I just bought a Dell 531 with Windows Vista. I did have a Dell XP.

Needs a new hard drive.

Once I was on the computer and turn it off but not shut down and walk away from it .

And come back several hours later I move my mouse it should come on but nothing.

I have to hold down the power button and restart it.

Does that sound like the same problem as a sleep problem?

Would love some answers.

Hilde

Thanks to  Erwyn van der Meer's comment above, I solved my PC's 'insomnia' issue by disabling the mouse-wakeup.  I had assumed that a setting like this would be under the Power settings, not hidden four menus deep in the mouse configuration.  Thanks for the help from Robert H. Goretsky of Hoboken, NJ

Thanks also to Dr. Phil - combining the advice from him (about disabling Network wakeup) with the advice from Erwyn van der Meer finally solved the problem.  Advice to others -- check these three settings (keyboard, mouse, and network wakeup), and you should be able to solve this 'insomnia' issue.  Thanks from Robert H. Goretsky of Hoboken, NJ

I also have a vista sleep problem, if i choose sleep from the start menu or press the power button (I configured it to sleep on button press) the screen goes blank, but the power, fan, power/HDD/LAN lights etc are still on, and when i press the power button again, it acts like it was in sleep and goes to the login screen. I have a msi gx700 laptop and none of the above comments or solutions work! Help!

Did you ever find out the solution to your problem?

Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:48 PM by Juan

MMM... When my Dell Inspiron 1501

wakes up, a lot of weird vertical lines

appear on screen.... that doesn't happpens

when i turn it on.. can anybody helpme?

please

I purchased a new HP Pavillion 2 weeks ago and of course it came pre-loaded with Vista, not that I wanted that. It crashed the first time I turned it on - blue screen of death - and continued to crash every time it went into sleep. HP had me do a system recovery on a brand new machine! but to no avail.  The times it didn't crash after sleep, my modem wouldn't come back on so I'd have to reboot it anyhow. Have also had monitor problems after sleep.

HP finally agreed a new machine and guess what?  Second new HP has exactly the same 'sleep'  problems a the first did.  So now, my pc is set for no sleep, eg. high performance.  

I think Microsoft should offer to replace Vista with XP for those consumers who wish it done.  I'm thoroughly disgusted with Vista.

One of my post popular blog posts deals with problems I was having with the stability of Windows Vista

I have the exact same sleep problem, my brand new Toshiba (Celron, Vista Home) is crashing after sleep modus and I have to reboot it every single time.

Any good suggestions?

(besides changing to Linux, which I in fact, will consider)

> re: Windows Vista Sleep Problems

> Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:48 PM by Juan

> MMM... When my Dell Inspiron 1501 wakes up, a lot of weird vertical lines appear on screen.... that doesn't happpens when i turn it on..

For me, applying the fixes suggested by Dell at the following URL solved the problem. The vertical lines that appeared when Windows Vista resumed from sleep (until the next reboot) have completely disappeared.

"The Dell™ Inspiron™ 1501 May Exhibit Vertical Lines on the Display"

support.dell.com/.../document

Hope this helps!

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